Today I’ll be talking with Berni Xiong, someone I’ve known for a long time, yet never had the chance to speak to. Berni is the shin-kicking life spark who ditched the corporate life do greater work that matters.

Berni runs The Shut Up Show and writes and consults for business leaders on perseverance and kicking fear to the curb.

I love Berni because she’s brazen and doesn’t hold back. Which, if you haven’t noticed yet about me is something I’m really not. I have some deep-seeded opinions and beliefs, yet was raised by a mother who would wash my mouth out with soap if I swore and schooled by nuns at the private school my mother somehow found the tuition dollars to send me to.

On the episode, we talk about:

  • How to identify when fear is holding us back
  • The many levels of motivation
  • How to establish positive work and life habits
  • How to start a revolution

Connect with Berni here:

I had such a great time chatting with Berni today. Like she mentioned, we’ve been online friends for a while and for some reason or another, just haven’t had the chance to talk yet.

If you’re not following Berni yet, make sure you do. She’s brazen and kicks fear to the curb.

My favorite takeaway is when we talked about having a community that empowers you to do great work and accountability partners. For instance, I have a few accountability partners that I meet with every so often. For example, I meet with my buddies Matt and Tom, two amazing spiritual life coaches I’ve known for a while, every few weeks to talk about mindfulness. So, when I wake up in the morning and try to talk myself out of spending the first part of my morning meditating, I think… all right, well if I don’t do this I’ll have to explain to Matt and Tom why I didn’t commit.

It’s the same kind of logic for when I was a personal trainer and triathlon coach. I competed with a world-class team and they served as my accountability partners. This explains the many apps out there that allow users to post their workouts online and compete with each other, like Crossfit for instance.

I hope you got as much out of that as I did and I’d love to hear what you think and what you are working on. Share your thoughts with me on Twitter @markwguay or over at

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